In April of 1963 two men sat down to discuss the controversial topic of "violence in the media."
One man had dedicated his life to the study and eradication of it. The other manipulated it to get at the core of the human experience of fear.
These two men, both intriguing minds of the first half of the twentieth century, civilly sparred on the appropriateness of violence in the media and where responsibility for its filtering lies.
Both expatriates, they made lasting impressions on their new home: the United States.
Alfred Hitchcock and Dr. Fredric Wertham.
The back and forth between the experts is gentlemanly, but forceful. Passionate and intellectual. Neither yielding to the other's strong opinion, but reasonable enough to hear and respect it.
Here is a glimpse of what happened on that day:
Many "thank you's" to Stephen O'Day, the great completest and archivist, for the audio recording.